Question:
why did arab Jews betrayed their countries for religions beliefs ?
2015-01-20 09:25:58 UTC
I just watched some past arab movies and I saw that arab Jews , Christians , Muslims all lived together in peace until israel started to form and their obsession to have their land that they claim their just because they say it's mention in their books .

anyway the point above is not what I wanna ask , my point why did arab jews betrayed their own countries for their beliefs .
Egyptian Jews who lived in Egypt before the war , why did they betray Egypt and left for Israel , in this circumstance shouldn't you defend you country first . they choose to spy on Egypt during the war in 1973 , and not just that when the war broke out all of them run for Israel and throw their nationalities . after the war ended some tried to regain their nationalities but were denied it because they already throw it .
off course not all of jews did that some Jewish still exist now days in egypt but the majority at that time flew away abandoning their countries and betraying their nationalities over religion beliefs
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LeKat!
2015-01-22 01:30:46 UTC
I'll answer your question, but first I'll correct some mistakes in your question.

* The Jews didn't leave Egypt on 1973, The massive immigration occurred before 1973.

* On 1973, Israel didn't attack Egypt. Egypt and Syria have started the war.

* The Jews didn't live peacefully in Egypt. being a dhimmī is not the goal of any person, They prefer to live as free people and not as a citizen of class-B.



The Jewish people were spread all over the world, but deeply they had a connection with each other. Each of them was part of the Jewish nation, which the Romans Exiled at ~100CE. Their dream was to rebuild their country and to live there as a nation again.

It's true that the Egyptians have killed less Jews in compare to other countries in Europe, however, it doesn't mean they live peacefully.

During the 30s of the 20th century, the Jews in Egypt have started feeling less secured, because of the increasing popularity of organizations like the "Society of the Muslim Brothers".

Those organizations encouraged pogroms in Jews and other Non-Muslims (1938, 1945).

Egypt became more dangerous towards Jews in it. and when Israel has declared independence, living in Egypt became a real threat for them.

When Gamal Abdel Nasser ruled Egypt, many of the Jews were arrested, and their schools and other Welfare organizations were declared as illegal.

The Egypt government also nationalized all the fortune of the Jews who left the country.

so, calling that "living peacefully" is a sad mistake.
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2015-01-20 09:50:59 UTC
Well the truth is that Judaism started in Egypt then spread to southern Arabia, there was never such a place called Arab, it was divided then as southern Arabia and northern Arabia, Israel was was part of southern Arabia then split into Judah and Israel, Christianity was started in Judah, the split came in the time of King solomon which was thousands of years before Jesus.. What you are talking about is doing WWW2 when Germany and Hitler were killing Jews doing this time people in the Middle East were not even involved, Jews lived in many different countries before this then after the war that's when Israel was giving to the Jews, as there on country, all these religions claim that Ethiopia is the land that is given by God to them in the King solomon days, Muslims, Christians and Jews call it there holy land. Israel lost its place doing King solomon since he fell into loving women that didn't follow God...the Egyptian people now are descendants of Persians who took it over before Jesus was born some time in 300 bB.C
2015-01-20 09:26:44 UTC
Answer:



The movie you watched was BS. Anyone who says this crap about religions living together in harmony until (insert whatever specific action you're against) doesn't know anything about history.



This argument fools only the uneducated, gullible, and stupid.



Seriously, you are claiming there was NO religious struggles between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam until the 1940s.



That's absurd.



If you want to know why Jews left their Arab states to come to Israel....It's because of 1) The oppression they suffered under Sharia Law, and 2) Concerns that the Arab allies of the Nazis would try to follow in the Nazis path.
Kevin7
2015-01-31 08:17:27 UTC
Arab Jews did not betray their nations,most Arab Jews were deported by force to Israel by Arab states after Israel's independence
TNO
2015-01-20 18:41:44 UTC
You have it wrong: the Arab Jews were betrayed BY their countries, not the other way around.



You have to understand that, despite the cheery image portrayed by a lot of people of pre-Israel Middle Eastern Jewish life....it wasn't always sunshine and rainbows. The Farhud of Iraq in 1941 is a prime example of the mob creating problems for the Jews, but there were issues all around before. Egypt for one instituted anti-Jewish policies prior to even WWI, and there was genocide in other places like Syria ( a really bad one not even a hundred years prior of Israel) so in most places Jews remained quite guarded. Yemen, for one, was always #$%^ and it's really no surprise that so many left quickly. Seriously, look how Jews lived there - lawfully forced to clean latrines, not allowed to ride camels lest they be taller than a Muslim, sometimes having their daughters taken to forcefully wed Muslims, and in such peril that they have to live within governmentally protected compounds - and you'd not wish to have their lives.



They didn't leave because of their religious beliefs: They left to escape the persecution, discrimination, and violence that faced them if they remained. Keep in mind that over 99% of the Jews did leave, which really indicates how bad the Arab world was. Yeah, many did choose Israel for religious reasons....but, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't have chosen to stay if the societies accepted them. And it's not like they had all the choices in the world to flee elsewhere, as Israel was often the easiest option for them.



I really can't emphasize that they would've stayed if they could. The Jews in the Middle East were rather rich and prominent....but, as WWII only a few decades before them showed, having money and status do not prevent you from being unfairly targeted, and many of their things were already starting to be taken away. Jews were often prevented from leaving the nation, barred from certain jobs as time went on, hung without trial for "Zionism" because of nothing more than hateful rumors, and when they did get to leave the nation, they had to promise to not go to Israel and were limited to one suitcase and the ability to carry only a limited amount of cash. Everything else had to be left behind. They were wealthy....so do you think that many would've chosen Israel if they had to, given that they went there and had to start from square one?



In the end, they did prefer life in Israel because at least they knew they were protected and safe. If that's betraying their countries, then those nations weren't worth a damn to begin with. Sure, there are some Jews who remain in Egypt...mostly Jewish widows who are elderly and married Muslim men, so their children aren't Jewish at all. The majority of the community fled, because they lacked protection from a society that was out for their blood simply for being Jewish.



I've attached a blog of people who post stories and evidence that the Middle East wasn't a Jew-friendly paradise. They take great pains to document the tragedy that is the "Jewish Naqba".



Edit: I am sticking to the main question, sorry if it's a tl;dr type of answer. You could seriously teach entire courses on this subject.



Still, after the war with Israel, many Jews simply didn't leave because they wanted to for religious reasons. No, they left because EGYPT MADE IT UNBEARABLE for many to stay. Perhaps your sources aren't the best at illustrating this but it did happen, as former Egyptian Jewish nations will bluntly tell you, even in Arabic. However, it's really not a surprise since Egyptian anti-Semitism did predate Israel's ascent, though it just became far more encouraged and mainstream afterwards. The Egyptians were horrible to their Jews before a small number of spies may have told Israel anything, which in any case shouldn't justify the torment the normal people were put through. The Jews were RICH but that was starting to be taken from them in Egypt, as well as their safety and dignity, and were forced to leave these riches behind for more impoverished conditions in Israel. Simply, being alive is better than being dead, which is why they left. What part about this don't you get?



If you think this is uncharacteristic for Egyptian society, look at the treatment of Copts today. If you think this uncharacteristic for Arab society, look at grievances that the Christians, the Kurds, the Assyrians, the Baha'i, the Yazidi, the Amazigh (Berbers), and other groups have. Concerning the Christian flight from the Middle East, they are SPECIFICALLY citing the previous Jewish exodus as what is happening to them now.
BMCR
2015-01-20 10:50:42 UTC
So, you are arguing that anyone who moves from one country to another betrays the country they moved from?

With an attitude like that, no wonder there was a mass migration of Sephardic Jews from Muslim lands to Israel (and elsewhere).
2015-01-20 22:40:43 UTC
they didn't. your fantasies are as true as your prophet's visions. And cowards like you aren't honest which considering your history, isn't surprising - someone was right, how many times were you caught cheating in university classes?
hiniikken
2015-01-20 09:28:58 UTC
Proof that God and religion takes priority over nationalism/tribalism
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2016-01-14 17:00:32 UTC
Because they are filthy jews, they have always been traitors and untrustable. NEVER TRUST A JEW UNTIL YOU ARE SURE HE IS F*CKIN' DEAD!! ...
Mark S, JPAA
2015-01-20 09:30:14 UTC
"I just watched some past arab movies" <----



That's your trouble right there.


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